The instincts are traditionally used to define three instinctual subtypes or variations of a basic type (e. 548 is a tritype a newer and much more controversial theory. With everyone else, they can see my emotions over my dead body, and I. Seems like the one is always an illusion. Nothing short of that is worth fighting for. Sp5 is too introverted and is exclusive to IT, and Sx5 is an emotionally intense subtype with a scarcity mindset that works better with IN, IT and IF types. the Enneagram symbol it is the triangle in the circle. Type Seven in Brief. They tend to be warm, friendly, and talkative. Whatever it says is the way I see things now. I think the difference is just that sx/sp people will tend to have that nagging sp pulling them away from their adventure, intensity and connections, while sp/sx people will tend to experience the conflict as the desire for connection and adventure pulling them out of their fortress. That’s the majority of what I’m reading. 548 is a tritype a newer and much more controversial theory. My theory is that a 5 with a well-developed Fe would have a softer character, and therefore. Fives often prioritize developing their own intellect over most other things in life. Type Fives love routines and loathe surprises. Most of the offline people and the professionals don’t use it. Make impulsive decisions without considering consequences. Temperaments 141 Votes. Type Eight. In the SX5, avarice is expressed through an ongoing search for a connection that will satisfy their need for an experience of the most different, safest, and most satisfying (idealized) union. 5w4s may seem very unconventional, even weird. One of these three subtypes is called the counter. Type Fives minimise material needs and dependence on others. American film director, Stanley Kubrick is one of the best film directors in history. Type 6 - True Love Waits. · So 4s and Sx 4s are honestly like night and day. Type Five. Extraverted (E) & Thinking (T) types. 👉 movies, anime. One of these three subtypes is called the counter. I have never met anyone like her. Enneagram type 5 wing 4: The Iconoclast is a subtype that results from the encounter of types 5 and 4, which means that the sensitivity of the 4s is added to the natural creativeness of 5s. From what I’ve noticed/learned (correlation nothing is hard facts yet) EIE: SO2 SO3 SX4 SO7 Mbti: Mostly ENFx. Posted - 13 Oct 2010 : 1:25:40 PM. This visual typing post also helped me. ) They can express a kind of greed and impatience that reflects their desire to consume as many. 5w4s may seem very unconventional, even weird. 9 Pages. Low self-esteem that manifests into self-harm are common elements of fixated Type 4s. They would rather sit back and observe what's happening instead of participating. Even if there are some you wouldn't (have) consider (ed) healthy, pulling certain qualities and examining their lives couldn't hurt. Enneagram 5w4 is a blend of characteristics of both Type 4 and Type 5 with type 5 being the core type. Sx/so would make you quite sociable but in an observative way, an interest in. I think the difference is just that sx/sp people will tend to have that nagging sp pulling them away from their adventure, intensity and connections, while sp/sx people will tend to experience the conflict as the desire for connection and adventure pulling them out of their fortress. We will be describing each personality separately followed up by giving an in-depth overview of a combination of both personalities i. Being an INFP with 4w5 or 5w4 is the most common type for INFPs. Here are some of the key traits to a Type 5w6 personality. Therefore, there is a need to retreat from the world and others so one feels competent. This is from Beatrice Chestnut's book "The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge". The reason people withdraw is to establish themselves as independent, not needing others. Main enneagram type + survival instinct = subtype. Afterwards, I did one of the online tests and the results were high for 5, 6, and 7 (with 5 & 7 being almost balanced), while the other. We have named personality type One The Reformer because Ones have a “sense of mission” that leads them to want to improve the world in various ways, using whatever degree of influence they have. Famous Enneagram Type 5 Careers: Philosophy, Physics, Politics, Writer, Philanthropy, Business, Entertainment, Musicians, Actors, Artist. Five wing sixes fear being useless or incapable. These six instincts are categorized based on their dominant and secondary spots. Read 554 discussions on 458 The Scholar's personality in Enneagram Tritypes (Theories). while so/sp is more "serious" - theyre not interested in just hanging out but in accomplishing large-scale projects that will impact the community. Sexual E4s have a phobia of feeling how little they value themselves, and also of feeling guilty. Type Fives minimise material needs and dependence on others. However, there is greater focus on their own inner world of contemplation and investigation. They are curious, creative, and reserved in their behavior. Although the instinctual variants aren’t technically a ‘part’ of the Enneagram types, as they exist independently of any typology whatsoever, it seems that the specific flavour they give to. We describe 3 clusters of instincts: self pres, sexual (attraction), & social. Primary Types: Type 3, Type 6,. They constantly seek new and exciting experiences, but can become distracted and exhausted by staying on the go. Can say deep or unconventional truths that few people might have reflected on before. This simple test helps you determine your Enneagram instinctual subtype. The Enneagram 8 will get along the most with enneagram 2s, 3s, and 5s. [2] Naranjo would define avarice in the sexual instinct as an invasive possessiveness that demands trust and surrender as excessive as their need for love is excessive. Yeah definitely, saying INFJ can only be sx5 is just wrong. The intimate subtype of the Four competes around relationships. You do not "change" type so don't listen to anyone who claims that, but you do grow into the features depending on your health levels and your cognition. IN (T) (22) IT (N) (14) Beybrain78. With everyone else, they can see my emotions over my dead body, and I. What is an Enneagram Subtype? An enneagram subtype (also known as an instinctual subtype or instinctual variant) is a combination of your main enneagram type. If you’re an ENTP, enneagram 4 will not be your core. Sx/So tends to be vocal. So/sx personalities have a broad and intense focus and enjoy cultivating multiple relationships. Yeah, I identify much with the 5 sx/sp, including the list from OLA's post above. Type 1 - No Surprises. We have named personality type One The Reformer because Ones have a “sense of mission” that leads them to want to improve the world in various ways, using whatever degree of influence they have. They tend to be warm, friendly, and talkative. They have a need to be able to hide behind boundaries they can control, and to know they have a place of safety they can retreat to, in order to avoid feeling lost in the world. They entertain more dark nihilistic ideas. This is from Beatrice Chestnut's book "The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge". An immature Sx5 will project their image of the perfect partner onto their partner and measure them against this illusion. Way late, but this is one of the best instinctual variant posts I’ve ever read. 27 Pages. When I’m in professional settings, the SP. Use when you know your type and want to find your instinctual. One of these three subtypes is called the counter. Sexual Eights have a strong antisocial tendency. very in-depth. I tend to go between remaining aloof/distant (if I feel like the relationship cannot meet my needs) or total immersion (if I sense it could). Read 228 discussions on 549's personality in Enneagram Tritypes (Theories). Really shows you how the new generation operates, teenagers retardedly barking arguments like pseudointellectuals, arguing as if enneagram/MBTI is an empirical/measurable science, as if they know everything, making discrete correlations, with their overwhelming 0 background and experience with any academic activities, but. Each of the nine points refers to a personality or character type, and. , SP 3, SX 3, and SO 3). Appearance: internally intense, brooding, contained energy, self-absorbed. It feels like a strong contradiction. Troubleshooters may withdraw from others to cope. An enneagram type four wing three, is a subtype of personality type 4 given by the enneagram theory of personality. The SX energy brings more volatility to feelings so they are often mistaken for 4s. Aggressive, as a means to providing security and certainty (as to reduce fear & doubt). They are meant to offer a contrast between the three subtypes being compared. What is an Enneagram type 5 wing 4 (The Philosopher)? People with an enneagram type five wing four personality tend to identify mostly with type fives, but also share traits with type fours. Enneatype 5: "The Investigator" The Intense, Cerebral Type: Perceptive, Innovative, Secretive, and Isolated Fives are alert, insightful, and curious. Fives are the least connected with their emotions of all the Enneagram Types; consequently, they can become disconnected and cynical. Naranjo or Ichazo aren't to blame for the negative depiction of Sx4 since in their tradition every other one is equally as "bad" (read Naranjo's book on subtypes "27 Personajes en Busca del Ser" and you'll. Instinctual subtypes are not to be confused with instinctual variant stacking which applies the instincts independent of type. The Enneagram is said to be broken between 4 and 5 -- There's a gulf there; an existential gap. Questions are forced-choice, similar to the method used by the Riso-Hudson Enneagram Type Indictor (RHETI). ChilindriPizza 9 mo. Superior, but not Separate. Definition: The combination of one of the nine core Enneagram types with one of the three instinctual variants results in a subtype. Your drive to pursue knowledge, and an internal desire for. Things That Make Threes Mad: The Enneagram Four – Being Forced to. They entertain more dark nihilistic ideas. Stay even if they have to leave because knowing you’re there makes them feel warm inside. So it's really obvious why Sx 5's seem a bit different than the other 5s. Workers can work at home and make money by choosing from thousands of tasks and jobs. Social 5 reach the attention of the audience toward their knowlege and want to enlarge themseve toward discovery. Hello Fives. Eights feel they must control their environment, especially people, sometimes becoming confrontational and intimidating. Type Two Enneagrams are caring and kind. This is from Beatrice Chestnut's book "The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge". They experience many of the same internal conflicts surrounding relationships, the need for independence and emotional expression. Additionally, for me as 5 it is especially hard to communicate with feeler enneagram types from 1 to somewhat 4. This three acts out in vanity through the desire to shine before the whole world: Social Threes enjoy being on stage. Enneatype 5: "The Investigator" The Intense, Cerebral Type: Perceptive, Innovative, Secretive, and Isolated Fives are alert, insightful, and curious. hedonistic, “playboy” or “playgirl” type. In the enneagram, instinctual stacking is used to dive deeper into the subtypes. Sure, sx 5's have intense emotions when it comes to things but that's quite normal among all the. Extraverted (E) & Thinking (T) types. Sx/sp is a personal mission to burrow/penetrate into the dirt of one's heart and soul (dirt = sp), and to be reciprocally penetrated by what one finds there. I believe exactly the same that the INTP type is contaminated with enneagram 5. 549 is an INTP personality type and 5w4 in Enneagram. Enneatype 2. Located at an elevation of 400 m on the Turbio River, it is on the major west-central freeway, the Autopista Centro Occidental. Enneatype 3. Description: This test uses a forced-choice approach comparing the three instinctual subtypes of a type (i. The Basic Structure of Clinical Enneagram. Each of those nine types is connected to four others arrayed around a symbolic diagram. Some will say INTJ and some will a say inxp it depends on what you read, imo the sx5 archetype is closest to an INFJ. Even if there are some you wouldn't (have) consider (ed) healthy, pulling certain qualities and examining their lives couldn't hurt. Enneatype 3. Sparkly fabulous diva 7s who are almost identical to 3w2 and 2w3 because of their energy and extreme fast pace. Type One. Projecting energy, trying to attract, "feelers" out looking for the juice. They aren’t very expressive and may seem cold and. sx5s, being the countertype, are the hardest to identify E5 traits in. Type Fives avoid dramatic displays of emotion. The Enneagram is said to be broken between 4 and 5 -- There's a gulf there; an existential gap. You would be 5w4 sp/so. Your drive to pursue knowledge, and an internal desire for. (although they are still there!) out of all the E5 subtypes, sx5 is usually the most comfortable interacting with the outside world (although they will still be introverted and will still feel the need to withdraw as a defence). Demonstrates how a dominant instinct can influence the behaviors of that type. The Sx 5 is more intellectual and inhibited in action than a Sx 6. • 39 min. The Basic Structure of Clinical Enneagram. The primary drive, from our emotional center, is our passion. Can say deep or unconventional truths that few people might have reflected on before. Add to that combo the nature of the 5 and you get someone who is quite conflicted internally. Yeah, I identify much with the 5 sx/sp, including the list from OLA's post above. -anne sexton. The Enneagram is a model of the human psyche that is principally understood and taught as a typology of nine interconnected personality types. Enneatype 8. sp5 is pretty unaware of it's detachment to feelings, and so5 completely suppresses and rationalizes feelings and avoids them. The area of the 2nd instinct acts as a "playground" of sorts in support of the first instinct. Free Spirits tend to defend themselves either by withdrawing from others or adapting. This makes the One very critical, it makes the sexual (intimate) subtype Four competitive about emotional status, especially their status with the. IEI: SO4 SX5 SP6 Mbti: Mostly INFx. ) ILE - Archetypal: So 7 - Other possibilities: Sp 7, Sx 7 SEI - Archetypal: So 9 - Other possibilities: Sp 9, Sx 9, Sp 6 ESE - Archetypal: Sp 2, So 9 - Other possibilities. The most basic desire of the Enneagram Type 5 is to feel helpful and competent. The Enneagram instincts are self-preservation (sp), sexual (sx), and social (so). However, your instinctual enneagram subtype helps you become more self-aware and deeply understand your personality traits. the other in his personal “sphere”. Trinity from oneness. The Sp 5 generally has less ego problems and is, in a way, more capable of renunciation than the. i do not see 5's drawn like moths to a flame to fascinating, awful creatures in this manner. Typically, type fives are alert, insightful, independent, innovative and curious. Hello everyone. 4w5 sx/so: -alanis morissette. YouTube- Episode #90. 1+Sexual – Heat/Jealousy. The Enneagram is a model of the human psyche that is principally understood and taught as a typology of nine interconnected personality types. The following Trait Structure are a summarized description of the original descriptions taken from the Enneagram 7 book/ Golosos, tramposos, soñadores y charlatanes. Reply reply ErikTheRed_22. They can be giving, talkative, high energy, and into advocacy/volunteer work. 2K Members 3 Online Top 7% Rank by size 11 upvotes · 13 comments question 8 upvotes 6 comments. AVARICE AND PATHOLOGICAL DETACHMENT. The Enneagram describes three “centers of intelligence,” nine personality “types,” and twenty-seven “subtypes” that provide an amazingly accurate picture of personality in terms of the patterns associated with the way we function. Type 5 feels a transparency of things past, present, and future. In the SX5, avarice is expressed through an ongoing search for a connection that will satisfy their need for an experience of the most different, safest, and most satisfying (idealized) union. Ashlie is a transformational coach, retreat leader, dance lover and Enneagram enthusiast. They link themselves to the core type and act cohesively. center types (gut, heart, and head) tri-center with wings. They are service-oriented and humble, seeking to help better the lives of those in their community. 135 - The Technical Expert Archetype. Enneatype 5. Main enneagram type + survival instinct = subtype. I don't see the logic behind the 4E. It's a good argument that i found on pdb, the reply someone gave at an user who was skeptical about INFP SX5;. But 2 are more charitable and "maternal". "Ennea-type V is not only introversive (as is implied in moving away from relationships) but also typically intellectual (as introverts generally tend to be). The Enneagram instincts are self-preservation (sp), sexual (sx), and social (so). She believes there is a life that wants to be lived through you and a purpose only you can fulfill. An Enneagram Type 5 person is someone who likes to assimilate a lot of knowledge (in all fields), in his relationships with others, he prefers logic instead of emotion, which, moreover, he expresses with difficulty, above all, he is afraid of intrusion. Famous Enneagram Type 5 Careers: Philosophy, Physics, Politics, Writer, Philanthropy, Business, Entertainment, Musicians, Actors, Artist. sexual 5. The Enneagram is a personality typing system that shows us the nine ways that people in the world default to in order to live their life. These are. You are not the one to share your feelings with others. Although some females may test as Threes, the majority are males. MBTI compatibility for E5; Sp5 - INTP, INTJ, ISTP, ISTJ. From what I’ve noticed/learned (correlation nothing is hard facts yet) EIE: SO2 SO3 SX4 SO7 Mbti: Mostly ENFx. Social Five may seem like an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms, but Fives have their social subtype just like all the rest of the numbers. A subtype is formed within our personality system when two core drives are mixed together, creating a blend of the two. trisha yearwood crockpot mac and cheese, cojiendo a mi hijastra
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After you take the Enneagram True Compatibility test, read on for some tips for relationship success, based on your match’s Enneagram type. For this Four, there is a desire to be witnessed and seen in their suffering. Enneagram Type Three – The INFJ Achiever. Type 5 will observe, detach from the situation, and dampen their feelings. 6s maintain security (share food, share lazyness) and their loyalty is based more on habit and history (consistency. The only difference between 2, 6 and 9 merging is the motive. This makes the One very critical, it makes the sexual (intimate) subtype Four competitive about emotional status, especially their status with the. Enneagram personality theory: Enneagram personality is defined with the help of enneagram structure. Discover Enneagram Take test 7 read about 7 read about wings doubt take more tests ooh 4, 5 and 9 are also high read about 4 5 and 9 be unsure about being 4 or 7 learn about stress and growth, y tritypes and subtypes Become 479 4w5 for a while read read read human expirience take 20 diffrent test just to get 6 of 9 types listen to podcast about sx 5 expirience read about sx 4 sx 5 sx 7 sx9. Make impulsive decisions without considering consequences. This is from Beatrice Chestnut's book "The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge". Only until they integrate that void rather than try to fill it will they find the deep connection they crave. Type Fives minimise material needs and dependence on others. madhatter New member. Enneagram Type Four – The INFJ Individualist. With the subtypes you are not simply one of nine types but also one of twenty-seven subtypes. I appear cold, calculating, impossible to read, detached from people, uncurious -even if inside I'm actually interested in the other person, I just appear that way at surface level. Discover Enneagram Take test 7 read about 7 read about wings doubt take more tests ooh 4, 5 and 9 are also high read about 4 5 and 9 be unsure about being 4 or 7 learn about stress and growth, y tritypes and subtypes Become 479 4w5 for a while read read read human expirience take 20 diffrent test just to get 6 of 9 types listen to podcast about sx 5. The Collector (John Fowles) - Frederick. However, their image-oriented personality can hinder vulnerability and authenticity. Sharp contrasts Very different from each other. They tend to be intellectual, hard-working, and cautious in their behavior. THIS IS NOT FROM ME. Self-Preservation Nines (according to Beatrice Chestnut) The combination of the passion of laziness and the dominant instinct for self-preservation in Nines results in a personality subtype that Naranjo, following Ichazo, calls “Appetite. neatoburrito7 • 4w5 • 1 yr. I think the difference is just that sx/sp people will tend to have that nagging sp pulling them away from their adventure, intensity and connections, while sp/sx people will tend to experience the conflict as the desire for connection and adventure pulling them out of their fortress. Impossible MBTIs for each enneagram: 1 - perceivers 2 - thinkers 3 - Introverts, with the exception being IXTJ sp3 4 - Anyone without 1st/2nd Fi 5 - Anyone who isn't INTP, ISTP, INTJ INFJ, or ISFJ (The IXFJs need to be sx5) 6 - sensors, ENFJ, ENTJ if it isn't sx6 7 - Non NE types except for EXFJ so7 8 - Anyone who isn't ESXP or ENTJ sp8 9 - Intuitives. Enneatype 5: "The Investigator" The Intense, Cerebral Type: Perceptive, Innovative, Secretive, and Isolated Fives are alert, insightful, and curious. Those include Self-preservation Subtype (Castle), Social Subtype (Totem), and Sexual Subtype (Confidant). 👉 movies, anime. · Firstly, the traditional enneagram descriptions describe the So 4 with great detail, being the So 4 the classical 4, but also fail to include the Sx 4 in there, but I guess you all know that already. You are not the one to share your feelings with others. This has created a negative view of SX 6 and many people who are actually SX 6 can't (and don't) accept themselves as SX 6. David Lynch. Instead of actively feeling fearful, these Sixes have an inner belief that when you are afraid, the best defense is. They are referred to as “investigators (or sometimes as “observers”) because they concentrate on developing complexed ideas and skills. There are three subtypes of Enneagram 5. What is an Enneagram type 6 wing 5 (The Guardian)? People with an Enneagram type six wing five personality tend to identify most with the type six, but share traits with the five type, as well. Source: Wisdom of the Enneagram. I wouldn’t say it’s more common but I would say typically sx5 descriptions sound like INFJ imo. And 5s help 8s remember to slow down. The social (so) instinct is about being a part of a group or community. April 05, 2009. i was very confused bc sx is considered the countertype and it never resonated with me though neither the the archetypal five. maybe this is the siren's call that poses to lure a 4 sp/sx to total deconstruction and ego death. Type 6 - True Love Waits. American film director, Stanley Kubrick is one of the best film directors in history. For the enneagram, it is a bit different, I do think that some types are not matching well with particular fixes. So/sx personalities have a broad and intense focus and enjoy cultivating multiple relationships. Makes one want to linger on one or two lines forever. 5s are hypersensible and that increases being w4 and sx. SX 5 - Confidence, Confidant (counter-type): searches for someone they can trust to share their secrets with; emotionally sensitive with romantic streak; may connect to inner emotional world through artistic expression. Thinkers often guard themselves by withdrawing from others, both emotionally and. Social Five may seem like an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms, but Fives have their social subtype just like all the rest of the numbers. Enneatype 2. SP 5 - Castle, Castle Defender: hides within "castle walls" to protect against intrusion and maintain privacy; hoards resources and minimizes needs to avoid dependency on others; observes life from a distance instead of participating in it. Social Four description (according to Beatrice Chestnut). I relate to both descriptions equally well, so if anyone can provide some insight on which seems more me I’d be. Enneagram is inherently negative because it constitutes an unhealthy, limiting attachment to distorted worldviews, understandings and patterns of behavior. Enneagram Type 5 Countertypes often don't act like the stereotypical type 5. Another difference between the two personality tests is in the number of personalities. Most know INTJs as efficient, hardworking, and excellent problem-solvers. Ichazo called the SX5 "Confidence", a need for someone to feel safe with, a person of refuge [1], an excessive demand for trust and to be able to trust and love. This fits with the concept that type 9 embodies the purest form of each instinct. A sx variant might make a 5 a bit moodier than your average 5, but it won't make them a. While SP6 is attached to others in forming amicable relationships, SX5's need. I mean, Sx 5's are called the coutertype amongst all the other 5 subtypes for a reason. I have a hunch that many sx5 use rationality and analyzation to compensate for a lack of faith, so it does make sense that faith would be the path forward for. 5w4 are a bit more emotional, isolated, deep, melancholic, centered more in how social interactions work along with introspection. A lot of the descriptions out there are pulled straight from enneagram books or old publications, and it’s rare to analysis outside of that. imyukiru • 4w5 • 2 yr. Enneagram Type 5 is known as “The Observer. Most of the descriptions for SX5 only focus on their desire for a relationship. Type One. hedonistic, “playboy” or “playgirl” type. They feel an energy drain from people's demands on them. (SX) Type 5: Confidence. While both so-blind 5s can seem withdrawn and mindful of their own energy levels, Sx/sp 5 had noticeable tendencies to "grow cold" and potentially cut people out after a period of bonding with them, because they felt the person could not meet their sx needs and/or standards. Excellent "troubleshooters," they foresee problems and foster cooperation, but can also become defensive, evasive, and anxious—running on stress while complaining about it. Joined Jun 28, 2012 Messages 114 MBTI Type ISTP Enneagram 5w6 Instinctual Variant so/sp Mar 24, 2013 #2 ISTP 5w6 3w4 8w9 SO/SP. Self-Preservation Fours The Self-Preservation Four is the countertype of the Four subtypes, and so it may be difficult to identify this person as a Four. In those instances, the person is usually insane. Sixes work hard to protect their colleagues, friends, and loved ones by staying alert and. Enneagram Type Comparison Test. Even if there are some you wouldn't (have) consider (ed) healthy, pulling certain qualities and examining their lives couldn't hurt. , SP 7, SX 7, and SO 7). , sp/sx, sp/so, sx/sp, sx/so, so/sp, or so/sx) using groups of statements. but the main facet of sx5 is that their avarice. Apr 15, 2017. That's what sx 9 is about. 5 SO/SP will want to have their fellow doctoral students over to their place and then take the rest of the weekend to get things back into shape. The instincts are traditionally used to define three instinctual subtypes or variations of a basic type (e. She believes there is a life that wants to be lived through you and a purpose only you can fulfill. The 27 Tritypes. Type Seven in Brief. Sometimes you will hear the enneagram type 5's called divergent. Although some females may test as Threes, the majority are males. American film director, Stanley Kubrick is one of the best film directors in history. (They love to. If they can’t leave the room, they’ll escape into their heads. In those instances, the person is usually insane. Different teachers approach this “deep connection” differently, some say it’s specific to one person in the 5s life (typically a. Seems like the one is always an illusion. Hello Fives. Sp5:I want the world to forget my existence! Sx5:I want the world to forget my exis-- wait! Don't leave me! sp/sx 5: I want the world to forget my existence, ecxept sometimes I idly wonder if it wouldn't be nice to get some, however, within 30 minutes or so of going outside I am convinced that having the world forget my existence was the. . ftp download